Best Trading Platforms in 2025 (The Ones We Use & Which To Avoid!)

Thinking of getting into investing, or switching trading platforms in 2025? In this episode, Jonny and Jan break down some of the most popular brokers, Revolut, Trading 212, Trade Republic, and Interactive Brokers, and share what it’s really like to use them day-to-day.

Jonny reveals the huge mistake he made starting out (and how it’s now cost him thousands), and together they discuss fees, ease of use, tax benefits like ISAs, and which platforms are worth avoiding completely. Whether you're a complete beginner or already dabbling in stocks and ETFs, this episode is packed with first-hand insight and practical takeaways.

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Transcript

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Okay. So the buzz around trading stocks ETFs, commodities and crypto has never been louder. And you've probably thought about giving it a go yourself.

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I started back in 2018 and I made a pretty big mistake.

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I chose the wrong platform.

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And now I'm stuck with around 100,000 pounds in assets

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on a platform that's basically useless, and I can't even transfer them out without paying a huge fee.

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So we don't want you to make the same mistake.

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And in this episode, we're going to break down four popular trading platforms.

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Revolut trading two on two, Trade Republic and Interactive Brokers. Now these all promise low fees and easy access, but they're definitely not build the same.

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depending on where you live and how seriously you want to be taking your investing,

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picking the wrong platform like me can be expensive and just a huge waste of time.

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But before we begin, we're not financial advisors. Jan and I, just two guys who love finance, banking, tech and we really just want to share that with you today.

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shall we begin with

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why we picked these accounts and a quick overview of each one.

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Yeah. Johnny, thanks for the intro. Let's. Let's do that. Let's jump right in. So we're looking at four trading platforms today, which have one single thing in common. And that's a fact that they're available across multiple countries. But I think the difference is those are, those are more unique and their individual strengths and disadvantages.

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let's start with revolute, which we think is perfect for for beginners, casual investors, ideally people that are already within the Revolut ecosystem

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that use Revolut for for the daily banking, potentially, and are just looking for an easy way to, to invest some spare cash.

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Then that's trading two, one, two, which is,

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great all rounder, also pretty approachable for beginners.

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Especially attractive in the UK due to its ISIS support and, the fact that there's zero commissions on, on investments.

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Then there's trade with public, which is great for EU based investors,

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looking for, for long term and also low cost investing options.

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then there's Interactive Brokers, which we think is the most comprehensive

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It's yeah, it's a very complex interface. Very steep learning curve as well. So it's something we would probably recommend. Mainly for professionals looking to. Yeah. Get the most, most information possible out of that, out of the trading app.

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there's not necessarily an order of ease here,

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but Revolut Trading two and two Trade Republic are definitely on the easier, more simplistic side.

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Whereas Interactive Brokers, you go on there and it feels overwhelming. There's a lot of numbers, there's a lot of data available. Not that that's a bad thing.

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That's a really good thing because it helps you make a better informed choice when it comes to trading.

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it's arguably a platform that's better suited for professional trader or a day trader,

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but you shouldn't be put off as an amateur or someone who's new to this,

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if you're willing to commit to Interactive Brokers, if you're willing to dive deep into researching how to be, you know, good at this, or how to make informed, well-researched decisions when it comes to trading, I think Interactive Brokers is a great place to go.

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are they all equal in terms of which one's going to be costly or less costly

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or, you know, is Interactive Brokers more expensive because it's more advanced?

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Yeah.

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We got revolute,

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which,

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Yeah, depending on which plan you subscribe to has a few, a few free trades included per month.

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And afterwards, it's 0.25% portrayed. And then there's also a 0.45% if it's fee whenever you do conversion.

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They call it the revolut, the revenue trade, which we've discussed extensively in the past on this channel,

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desk trading two and two with zero commissions, as I mentioned before.

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a .15 percent is X fee. So that applies if, for example,

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you're based in the UK, you hold your cash in British pounds and you're looking to invest in,

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in the, in the United States, for example, purchase, stocks there.

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There's Trade Republic which has a €1 flat fee, no fixed markup. And there's one thing that Trade Republic is really good for, and that's, the fact that you can

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yeah, you can save or you can set up saving plans for free.

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So there's no, no fee involved at all. It's great if you just, looking for to save a regular amount of money every month. So let's say, you're having AA2 thousand 500 pound salary every month, and you know exactly that. At the end of the month, you have 200 pounds available to

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Just one thing to mention here. Just mentioned British pounds. Trade Republic is not available in the UK. Would need to be in

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available in 17 European or EU countries.

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Interactive brokers has a

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$1 fixed fee or tiered pricing, but it also depends on which, which stock exchange you, you purchasing stocks in.

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But it's generally very low. And there's also tiered pricing if you have larger, larger orders. What Interactive Brokers is excellent for is their if it's markup, which is, yeah, insanely

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Which is, yeah, barely anything. Obviously it matters if you're having like huge, yeah, a huge order volume or a huge amount of cash you want to convert into a foreign currency, then that could matter.

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But for most people, for for regular sums, let's say like that, it's. Yeah, it's it's basically nothing.

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Also something something good to mention here.

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Most of these providers offer, interest on idle cash. So in case, like, the money that you don't invest, that you hold, within the brokerage

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Yeah, and they're all pretty competitive, aren't they?

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Which is yeah, quite, quite good, especially if you compare that to other, easy access savings accounts. It's,

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Okay. Just quickly hanging on the fees for a moment. So probably none of these platforms.

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Worse necessarily for someone trading a small amount of volume. Right. Revolut. It's fantastic if you're trading just 1 or 2 shares a month.

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Trading two on two is great because it's commission free. Obviously there's a fee if you're trading a, stock in a foreign currency,

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but generally speaking, yeah.

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And it sounds like they're all pretty competitive for low volume.

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is a bit of a red flag with Revolut, isn't there? Because you're talking once you get past

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you fee free trades,

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there's a

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0.25% fee per trade.

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if you did a $10,000 trade yarn

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$25 fee.

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feels like Revolut. We're going to be offering you something that that is good. But it's no better than trading 212. And if you're going to scale on Revolut it's probably going to cost you more money in the long term than it would using trading two and two,

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I believe ultra customers Revolut Ultra customers are paying say, 4,550 pounds a month.

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I believe they get ten commission free trades a month,

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which is

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probably a reasonable amount to suspect someone who's even doing this a bit more actively would probably hit, and after that, you've got that 0.25% fee

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and you're already paying 45, 50 pounds a month for ultra. I just don't think that this is a compelling option

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for someone who wants to scale their trading.

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trade. Us? Not at all,

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no.

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Yeah, yeah. But then again. Yeah. What if you come into a windfall? What if, you know, you're great,

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non-lethal passes away and you can make a couple of big trades with some inheritance money,

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as long as you. If you do it. If you do

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Yeah,

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yeah. No it's true, it's true.

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You

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I think if you're doing like a dollar cost average strategy, like a lot of people where you're just investing, say two 300 pounds every month, regardless of the price, into the same stock every single month.

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Yeah, like a DCA strategy with Revolut could make sense because of that commission free trade. But I'm sorry, I find it difficult to see how Revolut is better here than trading two, one, two. I mean, let's talk about which one's actually easier to use for a moment. Yeah, because I think that's an important topic, and I don't think it is.

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Is it like I personally am using trading two and two. I've used Revolut as well. And

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trading two and two is really built for someone who's trading, whereas Revolut feel like they've built something on the side of that giant ecosystem of finance, finance, goodies and products. So.

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integrated within the app.

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in the UK, does Revolut offer a desktop version?

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just like a standalone desktop product, I don't think Revolut offer that in the UK for trading

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If we do look at which one's actually easier to use.

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I think we could both agree

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the Interactive Brokers is probably at the bottom of ease of use.

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you know, we can put up some visuals for you if you're watching this on YouTube and you can see what we're talking about, we'll do some comparison visuals.

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It's pretty busy on Interactive Brokers.

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You know, that's not necessarily a bad thing. I said this at the beginning, like this is for someone who wants to really invest their time into this and learn about how to use it. And there's a reason

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why it's busy, because it's providing tons of data

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to a very active user base. Are plenty of people that are using Interactive Brokers.

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Lots of them are very successful in there, so there's no reason why that's a bad thing.

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But it doesn't make it easy to use for a beginner.

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Whereas trading two and two Trade Republic and Revolut are a lot easier

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Revolut still feels like a bit of a banking app though. Yeah, with a trading app on the side.

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Yeah,

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I think, I think I think you've got to be cautious, though. I think you've got to be cautious, buddy, because a lot of people, particularly the Gen Z, don't own desktops. They don't even own iPads.

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point. Yeah.

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If you were to recommend one of these apps in terms of usability to a beginner, and let's do we'll have to do EU and non EU because trade republics obviously EU which one of the three. Let's already discount Interactive Brokers.

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Yeah I really like trading too. On to

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yet. And I decided already before this conversation to not get into like CFDs and like, like shorting stocks, but

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the reason I bring it up is because trading 2.2 offers something that is paper trading off or trading with like fake money, essentially.

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And I, I really liked that because it allowed me to play around with CFDs and just have a look at how they work.

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One of the biggest things though. Yeah, I'm using trading two, one, two four is ISIS.

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that allows me to

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invest up to 20,000 pounds and any if it's a stocks and shares isa,

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any gain

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is tax free

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And they have a really nice selection of different ISIS. It's fee free.

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Interactive Brokers also support ISIS.

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So to Revolut,

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Interactive Brokers do have junior ISIS.

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I have a junior Isa for my daughter Yan. We actually use Vanguard,

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where we've just invested money in a S&P 500 ETF, but you could do that with Interactive Brokers as well.

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For anyone out there with kids you want to set up a junior Isa works just the same, except

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the limit

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is 9,000 pounds,

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Yann, are you actively investing anything at the moment? You

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do, and I use Interactive Brokers for currently. But I've, I've made some. Yeah, some, some small experiences with some of the, some of the other providers, essentially all excluding trading to one, two. That's new for me personally. Why do I use Interactive Brokers currently? I just love to the level of detail that's provided there.

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To me, that's always, always fascinating.

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They have an app that's quite. Yeah, it looks quite complex at first, but, they have a lot of, information, provided in there, especially daily news, which I like, related typically related to the, to the stocks you hold within your portfolio. So let's say you hold meta meta stocks then they do share some, some information about meta news about meta.

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It's very interesting. And, I just I just love that I find it fascinating

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and also, as an international investor and as someone who's based in, yeah, in a foreign country, I love the fact that ethics fees are basically non-existent.

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Quick tip here,

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as an alternative to traditional international money transfers, it's a it's a really clever workaround where you deposit essentially euro or whatever you currency is to Interactive Brokers. Then you convert it out for free or for a very, very small cost,

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and then you pay out your,

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your other, currency, to a local bank account there.

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So for example, I could I deposited euro converted it for I believe it was a euro or €2 in fees. And then I paid out U.S. dollar to my

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Nice.

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That's a good tip.

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So just deposit the money on Interactive Brokers, make the currency exchange, and then withdraw, essentially. And you're going to get really good rate.

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I know I've talked about trading two and two and why I like it.

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I just want to reiterate that, you know,

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it is a fantastic place to start trading. You know,

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some really diverse and interesting products.

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Yeah. And like they've got PiS.

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you can get like asset managed PiS where like Blackrock for example, will have like a pie of stocks and commodities. And

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But what's really interesting is they have like user made user generated PiS where people on like trading to and to have made their own. And there's some really interesting ones and you get regular updates when they make changes. You can see the success of the Pi, and there's a real community aspect behind it where people can comment and discuss the Pi.

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just to summarize, like who each platform would be perfect for,

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I think if I start with revolution

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think it sounds to me like it's

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for someone that's already within the Revolut ecosystem and you want the convenience, the simplicity of having all all of your banking

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on one app,

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One thing to keep in mind here, Johnny.

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Yep.

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that? Just imagine you've been using revolute for quite some time. You've built up a portfolio of, let's say, 30 or so different assets, and then you come into a position where you have to liquidated

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going to be paying to troubleshoot

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it could really sum up to something incredibly bad, like, just imagine a $100,000 there, above your free allowance.

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Yeah, it's a good point. And I mean, that's what we said earlier about scale. Like, if you are going to scale this up and, and turn it into a monster trading portfolio, then you're probably not going to want to do that on Revolut.

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I don't think any of the other platforms are, bad though, for that either.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, absolutely. Those are those are, specialized brokerage platforms. And I assume they're they're great. I think, especially with skate,

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trading to one, two, it's great if you UK or you based one zero fees or using these, these tax advantages

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Trade Republic. I like a lot if you're in the you want to build a long term ETF for a portfolio that's probably the best option out there.

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And they also have a great bank account, as I mentioned earlier.

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And Interactive Brokers, as we've mentioned,

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Yeah.

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provided.

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And, and then it's great.

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Now, what about the platforms that people should avoid, like the platform that I'm using?

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Halifax. Share dealing. Yeah. This is the current platform I'm using at the moment. And I kind of wait to show you. I'll show people who are watching this on video. This is basically, I started investing with Halifax in 2018,

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And at the time they didn't really look like they had much of a platform. But I thought, well, this is going to definitely improve. It has to improve.

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I mean, eventually we're going to have charts. Surely

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and that never that never happened. Yeah. And I still to this day just have this list of the stocks and shares I've traded and a button that I can press to trade or sell. And that's pretty much it.

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The problem, and it's probably quite similar to what Yann was just saying about Revolut. If you build up a big portfolio and you want to sell is I now have about 110,000 pounds of equities on there, and if I want to move them out, which I can should mention the trading to and to Revolut, Trade Republic Interactive Brokers do make it quite easy to move assets in and out of their platforms so you can move these around, but it would cost me thousands in fees to do so.

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I definitely recommend you really do make it make the decision based on what you foresee your activities being like. If this is something you want to make a real go,

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then make your choice of platform based on that,

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You probably going to see high fees. I mean, you're probably guaranteed to get high fees if you use your high street bank. The fees with Halifax have reduced over the years, but there's still a custodial fee of 35 pounds a year.

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it per portfolio or, per position?

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But for portfolio, if it was position, I'd be even more pissed. Its portfolio.

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Yeah. So I just pay 35

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here. Actually, did some some investing with a high street bank in the past as well. And they had one, like, one feature that I really, really enjoyed. And that was the fact that I could, I could call them if I wanted to make a

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Yeah.

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Nice. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. And to be fair, you can't do that. You can't do that with Halifax.

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Okay.

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there is a phone fee. So, so there's always a fee. So you have to pay a phone fee if you want to buy and sell on the phone with Halifax, which is really sad.

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Yeah. It's not something, it's, it's not something we brought up in today's episode. We apologize if anyone was listening specifically once a broker to call, but I don't think you're going to have I don't think you have to call trading two or to or Revolut.

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